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I started training June 2024 at 75kg and now weigh 85kg. My bodyfat has gone from 16% to 12%.
Age: 45
Weight: 85kg
Height: 175cm
Bodyfat: 12%
Background:
I'm almost 45 and up until recently my training was mostly strength based training, as I couldn't put on muscle. Well I could if I ate really hard, well drank, mass gain supplements. (I still find it really hard to eat lots). I'd put on about 50% muscle and 50% fat, then when trying to cut, even with trying to continue the same intensity training and high protein diet I'd lose weight in the same ratio putting me back to square one.
I discovered I had low T (~300), went and saw an endo which was pointless, he was a levels guy and said I shouldn't be experiencing side effects with those numbers, after several arguments and showing him other data he said he'd do a private prescription but it would only be gels. He told me I wouldn't be able to have kids if I took anything else.
So I continued life with low T, had kids and then recently decided to get my life in order and go through a private clinic.
I've done nine months now on Test E, 250mg for the first three months and went down to 200mg for the last six. I saw incredible results to start and put on 7kg of muscle and lost 2kg of fat (DXA), results significantly slowed when dropping to 200mg, I think this is also tied to how much I'm eating. At the start I stopped alcohol, increased carbs and protein and reduced sugar. I guess that and the Test at the start gave a big acceleration to my results. My weight gain is now just under 1kg a month.
Training:
Mon, Wed, Fri weight training
and aim for
+ Twice a week BJJ
+ Twice a week Muay Thai
I cycle through a 4 day workout, based on the GZCLP program. I haven't been training abs, I was hoping that the compound lifts would be enough, afraid not, still need to add them in.
My main lifts PBs are:
I'm fortunate enough to have a reasonable home gym which really helps significantly with consistency. Having kids and their activities makes training difficult.
The last three months of weight training have seriously plateaued, I haven't been very consistent with training, due to some trips away and injury. That and having to drop my Test levels so I can be prescribed made me lose almost a 1kg over the last two weeks.
I track my weight on a daily basis and run a seven day moving average to try and be more accurate.
Supplements/Vitamins:
Diet:
My diet isn't great. I just can't spend the time preparing properly, I hate cooking and having two kids make this very difficult. I just try and avoid processed food, avoid sugar, no alchol and aim for 2g/1kg of protein.
Cycle Stack:
Testosterone E, 200mg a week, 100mg subq injections Mon and Thr night (Primoteston)
Telmisartan 40mg a day
Goal:
My goal is 90kg and >10% bodyfat. I'd like to do this within the next 6 months.
(Because of my sports I don't think I can go bigger and maintain the cardio levels needed)
Future considerations:
Achieving my goal feels quite tight, and am considering upping my dose to 300mg a week and/or stacking with something else. I have to have bloods every three months with my clinic and they won't prescribe if levels too high, which adds complexity so still weighing up best plan.
Do you think I can hit my goals with just increased test levels?
Or am I going to have to go down the Deca/Anavar route?
I started training June 2024 at 75kg and now weigh 85kg. My bodyfat has gone from 16% to 12%.
Age: 45
Weight: 85kg
Height: 175cm
Bodyfat: 12%
Background:
I'm almost 45 and up until recently my training was mostly strength based training, as I couldn't put on muscle. Well I could if I ate really hard, well drank, mass gain supplements. (I still find it really hard to eat lots). I'd put on about 50% muscle and 50% fat, then when trying to cut, even with trying to continue the same intensity training and high protein diet I'd lose weight in the same ratio putting me back to square one.
I discovered I had low T (~300), went and saw an endo which was pointless, he was a levels guy and said I shouldn't be experiencing side effects with those numbers, after several arguments and showing him other data he said he'd do a private prescription but it would only be gels. He told me I wouldn't be able to have kids if I took anything else.
So I continued life with low T, had kids and then recently decided to get my life in order and go through a private clinic.
I've done nine months now on Test E, 250mg for the first three months and went down to 200mg for the last six. I saw incredible results to start and put on 7kg of muscle and lost 2kg of fat (DXA), results significantly slowed when dropping to 200mg, I think this is also tied to how much I'm eating. At the start I stopped alcohol, increased carbs and protein and reduced sugar. I guess that and the Test at the start gave a big acceleration to my results. My weight gain is now just under 1kg a month.
Training:
Mon, Wed, Fri weight training
and aim for
+ Twice a week BJJ
+ Twice a week Muay Thai
I cycle through a 4 day workout, based on the GZCLP program. I haven't been training abs, I was hoping that the compound lifts would be enough, afraid not, still need to add them in.
My main lifts PBs are:
- Squat: 162.5kg
- Bench: 127.5kg
- Deadlift: 175kg
I'm fortunate enough to have a reasonable home gym which really helps significantly with consistency. Having kids and their activities makes training difficult.
The last three months of weight training have seriously plateaued, I haven't been very consistent with training, due to some trips away and injury. That and having to drop my Test levels so I can be prescribed made me lose almost a 1kg over the last two weeks.
I track my weight on a daily basis and run a seven day moving average to try and be more accurate.
Supplements/Vitamins:
- Whey protein blend, 2-3x 30g a day (Bulk Nutrients Matrix)
- Casein protein, 1x 30g before sleep (Bulk Nutrients)
- Creatine 5g a day (Bulk Nutrients)
- Magnesium (Blackmores Super Magnesium)
- Vitamin D + K2 5000IU (Now Mega D3 & MK7
- Vitamin C 1000IU (Cenovis 500mg)
- Omega 3s 4500mg (Natures Own 1500mg)
Diet:
My diet isn't great. I just can't spend the time preparing properly, I hate cooking and having two kids make this very difficult. I just try and avoid processed food, avoid sugar, no alchol and aim for 2g/1kg of protein.
- Breakfast, immediately after waking 30g of whey protein.
Smoothie, two bananas, 50g oats, 30g nuts, 200g high protein yoghurt, 250g milk. - Lunch, at work generally a premade muscle meals pack, at home try and have the day before's dinner.
- Dinner, nothing specific.
Cycle Stack:
Testosterone E, 200mg a week, 100mg subq injections Mon and Thr night (Primoteston)
Telmisartan 40mg a day
Goal:
My goal is 90kg and >10% bodyfat. I'd like to do this within the next 6 months.
(Because of my sports I don't think I can go bigger and maintain the cardio levels needed)
Future considerations:
Achieving my goal feels quite tight, and am considering upping my dose to 300mg a week and/or stacking with something else. I have to have bloods every three months with my clinic and they won't prescribe if levels too high, which adds complexity so still weighing up best plan.
Do you think I can hit my goals with just increased test levels?
Or am I going to have to go down the Deca/Anavar route?
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