shawShanks
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How you finding the EQ?
I'm a big fan of EQ. Test derivatives seem to agree with me. In past EQ cycles towards the end had slightly elevated bp and slight blood thickening but remedied with a blood donation.How you finding the EQ?
Great advice @ironguru Will be keeping a thorough eye on bloods and responding accordingly. I'm not afraid to bring in a health phase earlier than planned to maintain healthy markers. I want to be in a solid position health wise entering prep. I do blood pressure daily (every few days if busy) and am due for next set of bloods on 14th August. I am feeling my hermatocrit will still be in range at this point and will keep blood donation up my sleeve for later/when needed.Your overall plan’s looking on point, but a couple things I’d keep an eye on from experience. Running 700 Test and 420 EQ for an extended off season will def boost strength and appetite, but don’t ignore bloods. EQ especially can send hematocrit through the roof so get checked every 6 to 8 weeks, not just at the start. When you shift into prep and bring in orals like Var + Winny together, that's a double hit on the liver. Either split them across different phases or back one off unless you’re running proper support like TUDCA or NAC. Also noticed your proteins pretty high. Nothing wrong with 2.5–3g/kg for enhanced athletes, but when calories get low later in prep, you might be better off dropping it slightly and increasing carbs for training performance, unless hunger becomes an issue. Also if you’re dipping below 2300 cals and going flat, chuck in a high carb day every 7-10 days, doesn’t need to be dirty, just enough to refill glycogen and keep output up. Keen to see how this plays out for you. Very well thought out.
Thanks @hubbles Super smart idea with limiting orals during prep when the body is already under significant stress. I have never run injectable Winny. In the past I have had increased sides from DHT's (large breakouts - have now been on low dose accutane for 6 months which has cleared everything up - another reason my ALT/AST levels where high after dbol kickstart) The idea of PIP from water based suspensions has also kept me cautious, but am not opposed to giving it a run. My thought would be that my sebum production has lowered to the point where low/moderate dose DHT's should not be a problem anymore. Another point to add is that I will have finished my acctuane course by prep time so my liver will be working less. Always a lot to considerI also like the plan Fletch. Couple of thoughts to throw in the mix...
If ALT/AST were already creeping up post Dbol, I’d probably be cautious with the idea of even light oral rotations in prep, especially if you're stacking with high stim output and reduced food. You might be able to get more bang from lower stress compounds or shorter blasts rather than dragging orals out. Have you considered something like injectable Winny for a cosmetic push later?
Also good call on not jumping to donate blood unless you need to... I've seen guys react to numbers and end up chasing stability too aggressively. If your BP stays in check and no symptoms creep in... probably no need to pull the trigger prematurely?
Did you get much water retention with the Dbols, especially around the face?had just come off a dbol kick start)
@ironguru I tend to get minimal sides from running higher E2 levels, so had minimal water retention on Dbol, even face. Perhaps, as I was running EQ it kept E2 levels somewhat in check, but even with levels at 240-260 pmol/L, I don't get any water retention or nipple sensitivity. It may also be that my bodyfat % is lowish so the E2 conversion is low. I did bloods a few weeks post Dbol and E2 was sitting at 112 pmol/L, but I'm guessing there was a heavy rebound effect involved.Did you get much water retention with the Dbols, especially around the face?
I’ve run Winny a few times... mainly towards the back end of prep and short 4 to 6 week blasts. Always got that chiselled look from it, especially when I was already lean.Had to pin daily and definitely copped some PIP from time to time. Nothing too crazy but never really stayed on it long enough for any major sides.Thanks @hubbles Super smart idea with limiting orals during prep when the body is already under significant stress. I have never run injectable Winny. In the past I have had increased sides from DHT's (large breakouts - have now been on low dose accutane for 6 months which has cleared everything up - another reason my ALT/AST levels where high after dbol kickstart) The idea of PIP from water based suspensions has also kept me cautious, but am not opposed to giving it a run. My thought would be that my sebum production has lowered to the point where low/moderate dose DHT's should not be a problem anymore. Another point to add is that I will have finished my acctuane course by prep time so my liver will be working less. Always a lot to consider
Have you had success with injectable Winny in the past?
I agree with your thought on blood thickness. Leading up to an increased hermatocrit from a previous cycle, my blood pressure increased well into the 150/90 range and I felt flushed constantly. I will be using these signs as an early indicator but if my levels have sky rocketed after my next bloods will take action but will sit on it for the minute as they were well within range 4 weeks ago.
Your smashing it Fletch...Todays pull workout 31/07/25
Notes: Last workout before heading back to Aus tomorrow. Packed gym so moved between rear/mid delts, biceps and upper and lower lats. Has been a busy work trip...will be happy to be back home for a few days. Haven't weighed myself this week but have kept the carlories up. Will be interesting when I jump on the scales tomorrow.
Reverse V-Bar grip lat pulldown -
40kg x 18
60kg x 12
90kg x 10
80kg x 12
Rope face pull
25kg x 18
20kg x 16
15kg to failure
15kg to failure
Lat Pullover - cable
20kg x 20
30kg x 12
27.5kg x 11
25kg to failure
Upright cable row
35kg x 12
35kg x 11
30kg x 15
25kg x 16
Dumbell lateral raise
10kg x 25
10kg x 20
10kg to failure
10kg to failure
Seated wide grip row (flared arms)
40kg x 18
60kg x 12
50kg x 15
50kg x 14
40kg to failure
Cable bicep curl
22.5kg x 16
22.5kg x 15
20kg x 16
20kg x 15
17.5kg to failure
Hey @Skays Thanks bro, after a bit of refining, I seem to be in a sweet spot right now. Muscle is going on and fat around the mid section is staying mostly away so I'm happy!Your smashing it Fletch...
I read the comments about Dbols. I've never taken them only because I've always heard stories about the water retention. Looks like you were ok with it.
Good to know @hubblesI’ve run Winny a few times... mainly towards the back end of prep and short 4 to 6 week blasts. Always got that chiselled look from it, especially when I was already lean.Had to pin daily and definitely copped some PIP from time to time. Nothing too crazy but never really stayed on it long enough for any major sides.
If you decide to go with it keep it at low dose like 50mg daily![]()
Thanks @Skays Trying to match your standards with the food pics!Training and food pics looking on point![]()