First cycle adive

[md1]

Hey, looking at starting my first cycle. 31, 1.78cm and 85kg atm, arms measuring 16.5inches and have been hitting the gym for 7 years now. Attached a few photos of my current physic.

Looking at running 500mg a week for 12-14 weeks. Will spread it out to 2 injections a week. Should I look at stack it when anything else? Would this much be suitable for my current physic.

Also, I'm worried mostly about hair loss, currently have no receding hairline. Is it would to use shampoos or take anti hair loss pills?

I'll also have arimidex and nolvadex on hand and of course.

Any help would be great

Pic of current physic for reference

 

[25guage]

Judging by this picture. I would advise you to never touch anabolic steroids. You already have a good physique and it’s not necessary you alter your health in a negative way for no benefit.

 

[chinz]

Mate why even think about extra sauce, ur in great shape, excellent muscularity and body symetry, that's what people strive for and use sauce as a helping hand, U got the full package what more do you want

 

[chinz]

If you worried about hairloss stay away from the sauce especially if you have bald or balding family members,

 

[chinz]

Nizoral shampoo the strong dose and Minoxidil are helpful however will not stop hair shedding while on the sauce

 

[md1]

Family member on both side all have a strong head of hair. Yeah I've read about hair thinning, can recover yeah ?

I guess I want to have the same looking physic but just be bigger and I feel like sauce might be the answer

 

[trespassing_minds]

Family member on both side all have a strong head of hair. Yeah I've read about hair thinning, can recover yeah ?

I guess I want to have the same looking physic but just be bigger and I feel like sauce might be the answer

Food will be the answer

 

[Fredqld]

I am using Nizoral shampoo (to try to avoid hair losses, none so far, one (not as moderate as I thought) cycle, but just wait until you’re over 50 and really need it. You have great genetics; don’t mess with gear, as you’ve already achieved amazing results as a natural. You would look weird bigger IMO

 

[md1]

If I did do a 12 week 500g cycle what broth would I expect long term?

 

[hubbles]

If I did do a 12 week 500g cycle what broth would I expect long term?

Don’t even bother. You’ve got great genetics and a strong, chiselled look at 31. Chances are, your natural test is already doing the job. Just tweak your training and calories to hit your goals. If the time comes when your levels drop, then you can rethink it.

 

[Fredqld]

If I did do a 12 week 500g cycle what broth would I expect long term?

I did that 20 years ago, one cycle, and my testosterone levels did not rebound properly. As a result, I ended up with depression and osteoporosis, which I only discovered after a severe fracture. I am now on testosterone replacement therapy (TRT) for life. If you’re training, I suggest trying 3.5 grams of protein per kilogram of body weight first.

 

[md1]

Don’t even bother. You’ve got great genetics and a strong, chiselled look at 31. Chances are, your natural test is already doing the job. Just tweak your training and calories to hit your goals. If the time comes when your levels drop, then you can rethink it.

So youre suggesting to wait until my test drops naturally and then maybe start trt?

Im just chasing a big chest and shoulders, (they've taken to longest to develop) and chasing bigger arms, I think mine could be close to maxed out naturally but idk in all honesty. Just seeing guy at the gym bigger than me and I get envious hahhaa

 

[hubbles]

So youre suggesting to wait until my test drops naturally and then maybe start trt?

Im just chasing a big chest and shoulders, (they've taken to longest to develop) and chasing bigger arms, I think mine could be close to maxed out naturally but idk in all honesty. Just seeing guy at the gym bigger than me and I get envious hahhaa

That pic you shared, guaranteed a lot of people would be chasing that look and you did it naturally. You’ll get the bigger chest and arms, just gotta tweak the diet and training. Honestly, you'd be better off investing in a PT or online coach to guide you. A lot of the brothers here work with one.

 

[md1]

Thanks dude, yeah I think I have room to grow with my chest just not sure if my arms will be able to grow any more naturally ones sitting at 16.5inch and other at 17inch on low body fat

 

[flexymcflexface]

Hey, looking at starting my first cycle. 31, 1.78cm and 85kg atm, arms measuring 16.5inches and have been hitting the gym for 7 years now. Attached a few photos of my current physic.

Looking at running 500mg a week for 12-14 weeks. Will spread it out to 2 injections a week. Should I look at stack it when anything else? Would this much be suitable for my current physic.

Also, I'm worried mostly about hair loss, currently have no receding hairline. Is it would to use shampoos or take anti hair loss pills?

I'll also have arimidex and nolvadex on hand and of course.

Any help would be great

Pic of current physic for reference
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Dude, you look how most of us want to.

My question is WHAT is the goal?

You haven't made that clear

Your clearly in the great range of natural Test levels right now (maybe go get bloods done and see)

Whats the goal from a cycle? Now if your range is still good, you do not need 500mg a week. 300mg max.
Just remember, nearly every time you do a cycle,e you need to do more the next time around. So dont start to high


But as someone else said and I had the same issue

I did a cycle in my late 20s when I looked like you. My natural test never bounced back.

Took me nearly 10 years to figure out the issue and now on TRT for life. I suffered SOOO many issues from Depression, sleep issues, to then putting on weight I couldn't lose no matter how hard I went tot he gym. Was some of my worst 8 - 10 years of my life. The doctors back then just told me I was depressed and tired to put me on meds. No one picked up that my Test levels where of an 80 year old and I had tanked them

 

[md1]

Dude, you look how most of us want to.

My question is WHAT is the goal?

You haven't made that clear

Your clearly in the great range of natural Test levels right now (maybe go get bloods done and see)

Whats the goal from a cycle? Now if your range is still good, you do not need 500mg a week. 300mg max.
Just remember, nearly every time you do a cycle,e you need to do more the next time around. So dont start to high


But as someone else said and I had the same issue

I did a cycle in my late 20s when I looked like you. My natural test never bounced back.

Took me nearly 10 years to figure out the issue and now on TRT for life. I suffered SOOO many issues from Depression, sleep issues, to then putting on weight I couldn't lose no matter how hard I went tot he gym. Was some of my worst 8 - 10 years of my life. The doctors back then just told me I was depressed and tired to put me on meds. No one picked up that my Test levels where of an 80 year old and I had tanked them

Thanks for the insight

Yeah I've got lots to consider and will get my blood works done and ****yse that before continuing any further.

In the future the plan would be to start TRT but yeah would.like.to maintain good natural test for as long as I can.

How you feeling now being on trt and how's your muscle development been since?

 

[flexymcflexface]

Thanks for the insight

Yeah I've got lots to consider and will get my blood works done and ****yse that before continuing any further.

In the future the plan would be to start TRT but yeah would.like.to maintain good natural test for as long as I can.

How you feeling now being on trt and how's your muscle development been since?

Get your bloods here so you can easily get access to them

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Thats the pannel we use mainly for making sure all levels are right without haveing to fight your doctor to get them.

TRT is when you need it. It changes your life a fair bit. Hard to travel even with a script, Hard to get legal TRT and expensive and many other things.


its improved my life in many ways but now I'm blasting all the time I'm not getting the same benefits. 4 weeks out until I'm back to TRT levels again so probably feel a hell of a lot better.

 

[md1]

Get your bloods here so you can easily get access to them

Sports BB 1: Private blood & hormone testing

We offer a completely confidential, non judgemental, blood testing service in NSW, VIC, QLD, WA, SA, NT, ACT and Tasmania. Our blood testing service can be arranged for you at a Collection Center, close to you, anywhere in Australia.

imedical.com.au

Thats the pannel we use mainly for making sure all levels are right without haveing to fight your doctor to get them.

TRT is when you need it. It changes your life a fair bit. Hard to travel even with a script, Hard to get legal TRT and expensive and many other things.


its improved my life in many ways but now I'm blasting all the time I'm not getting the same benefits. 4 weeks out until I'm back to TRT levels again so probably feel a hell of a lot better.

Yeah cool I just got my bloods done today so we will see how they look