Old boy wanting info on re doing a test cycle

[toxic avenger]

Hi, im 68 years young, i have been using anabolics for a long time since being about 45 when i first started. Back then i was prescribed Sustanon 250 from my Dr, but in recent years my GP contacts will not prescribe thru regulations to them from health Dept and their own AMA {Their medical union}.

I was buying them black market for some years after i couldn't get them on prescription many years ago, i was having great success with the results, until about 1 year and a half ago when i started to feel lethargic, and losing weight, i was training and eating correctly and getting adequate sleep.

I went to my GP to have blood work done and was shocked to see that my testosterone {free} had gone to baseline. I did further inquires to be told the company online i was buying from had sold to another person who was adulterating it and it was basically fake.

I found a new rialable source and the products were great again, blood results confirmed as my estrogen levels and testosterone were elevated back up into a top range. I was gaining strength abd energy back and motivation. Problem was my blood had thickened confirmed by the blood test its called "Polycythemia" stage 2 and my GP told me the main cause in my case was the testosterone usage.

I have been off the gear completely now for 2 months, I'm eating well but obviously losing weight going from 90 kg with about 18% body fat down to 78 kg and putting on body fat and losing muscle.

I was recommended a clinic on the GC at Upper Coomera who deal with these problems, i haven't seen them as yet, but they have a natural product called "Baseline Natural Testosterone Booster", it contains Divanil, D-Aspartic acid, Forskolin, Icaarin, zinc picolinate, and another herb extract called Tongkat Ali. I used to own a supplement shop and know about some of these products.

I want someone's opinion whether to try this product or go straight back on the injectable testosterone. I was using black market 1ml per week of Enanthate 300ml and alternate with the sustanon 250.

My gut feeling was to go back on the gear, but if i do perhaps lower the dose to say 1 ml of either one every 12 days, i would really appreciate some feedback.

Toxic avenger

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[YAT35Y]

Hi, im 68 years young, i have been using anabolics for a long time since being about 45 when i first started. Back then i was prescribed Sustanon 250 from my Dr, but in recent years my GP contacts will not prescribe thru regulations to them from health Dept and their own AMA {Their medical union}.

I was buying them black market for some years after i couldn't get them on prescription many years ago, i was having great success with the results, until about 1 year and a half ago when i started to feel lethargic, and losing weight, i was training and eating correctly and getting adequate sleep.

I went to my GP to have blood work done and was shocked to see that my testosterone {free} had gone to baseline. I did further inquires to be told the company online i was buying from had sold to another person who was adulterating it and it was basically fake.

I found a new rialable source and the products were great again, blood results confirmed as my estrogen levels and testosterone were elevated back up into a top range. I was gaining strength abd energy back and motivation. Problem was my blood had thickened confirmed by the blood test its called "Polycythemia" stage 2 and my GP told me the main cause in my case was the testosterone usage.

I have been off the gear completely now for 2 months, I'm eating well but obviously losing weight going from 90 kg with about 18% body fat down to 78 kg and putting on body fat and losing muscle.

I was recommended a clinic on the GC at Upper Coomera who deal with these problems, i haven't seen them as yet, but they have a natural product called "Baseline Natural Testosterone Booster", it contains Divanil, D-Aspartic acid, Forskolin, Icaarin, zinc picolinate, and another herb extract called Tongkat Ali. I used to own a supplement shop and know about some of these products.

I want someone's opinion whether to try this product or go straight back on the injectable testosterone. I was using black market 1ml per week of Enanthate 300ml and alternate with the sustanon 250.

My gut feeling was to go back on the gear, but if i do perhaps lower the dose to say 1 ml of either one every 12 days, i would really appreciate some feedback.

Toxic avenger

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Personally I don’t think “test boosting” supplements work, no more so than what diet etc could do, but could be worth a shot before you consider going back to injectables.

And yeah if you do, perhaps lower dosage. I would suggest keeping injections regular, not too far apart to keep levels stable, but simply decrease the dose.

If you need, one of the verified sponsors on here @gearmaniac101 can assist with gear

 

[toxic avenger]

Personally I don’t think “test boosting” supplements work, no more so than what diet etc could do, but could be worth a shot before you consider going back to injectables.

And yeah if you do, perhaps lower dosage. I would suggest keeping injections regular, not too far apart to keep levels stable, but simply decrease the dose.

If you need, one of the verified sponsors on here @gearmaniac101 can assist with gear

 

[Fredqld]

Problem was my blood had thickened confirmed by the blood test its called "Polycythemia" stage 2 and my GP told me the main cause in my case was the testosterone usage.

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Since you cannot donate blood while on HRT, regular phlebotomy should resolve this issue and may help extend life expectancy. I am planning to undergo some to reduce my iron level, which is at 400.

verified sponsors on here @gearmaniac101 can assist with gear

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[toxic avenger]

Hi Yat35Y.
Appreciate your feedback re my inquiry.

I tend to agree with you re the Test Boosters, and these orals have to be further broken down by the liver which decreases further their potency, plant root extracts and certain herbs can help some people, but I've always been an "In for a penny, in for a pound" type of person.

Where as injectables miss the first pass and go straight to the receptor sites which is more effective.
I further agree with you, re the smaller dose more often, so i was thinking of -5ml once a week of the sus 250 and then the enanthate 300 same dosage and regularity, what do you think about that cycle Yat35Y..?

I have gear stored from the finish of my last cycle when i decided to have a long break, its the Sus 250 and Enanth 300, enough for about another 20 weeks with a weekly dose of -5ml. I have a friend that uses, he has great mass and is confident that his contacts gear is legit but I'm always interested to try another. Are you confident that your connection is legit, if so how do you know, and can you give me a price and whats available, and if so do i meet with this person or is it by way of bitcoin which is how most people do it this way to remain anonymous, and not leave a paper trail. This is how i was conned last time from the internet with adulterated gear, that eventually sent my T level baseline.

Once again Yat35Y thanks for your info. Hope to hear back from you..

toxic avenger

 

[toxic avenger]

Since you cannot donate blood while on HRT, regular phlebotomy should resolve this issue and may help extend life expectancy. I am planning to undergo some to reduce my iron level, which is at 400.



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Im the same i could not donate blood for this reason, however last year in 2024 i had 5 different appointments with my GP and had venesections, this is where my Dr. withdrew 500ml of my blood each visit to reduce the blood thickness/stickiness, the down side of this was that it also diminished my stores of iron so after my 5th visit i had an iron infusion from him. Im now going to run the gauntlet with it and start the gear back soon, i take daily Cartia a pharmacy over the counter low dose aspirin and fish oil everyday and garlic to keep my blood as thin as i can.

 

[YAT35Y]

Hi Yat35Y.
Appreciate your feedback re my inquiry.

I tend to agree with you re the Test Boosters, and these orals have to be further broken down by the liver which decreases further their potency, plant root extracts and certain herbs can help some people, but I've always been an "In for a penny, in for a pound" type of person.

Where as injectables miss the first pass and go straight to the receptor sites which is more effective.
I further agree with you, re the smaller dose more often, so i was thinking of -5ml once a week of the sus 250 and then the enanthate 300 same dosage and regularity, what do you think about that cycle Yat35Y..?

I have gear stored from the finish of my last cycle when i decided to have a long break, its the Sus 250 and Enanth 300, enough for about another 20 weeks with a weekly dose of -5ml. I have a friend that uses, he has great mass and is confident that his contacts gear is legit but I'm always interested to try another. Are you confident that your connection is legit, if so how do you know, and can you give me a price and whats available, and if so do i meet with this person or is it by way of bitcoin which is how most people do it this way to remain anonymous, and not leave a paper trail. This is how i was conned last time from the internet with adulterated gear, that eventually sent my T level baseline.

Once again Yat35Y thanks for your info. Hope to hear back from you..

toxic avenger

Yeah mate you could alternate between sus and test E if you wanted, your weekly dose on the standalone Test E if running 0.5ml would be marginally higher that the Sus (25mg).

I can personally vouch for @gearmaniac101 as I have used them multiple times, as have others, and they have proven to be professional and reputable.
You can contact them directly via the Telegram app (same username) and yes Bitcoin is used for purchases. They can provide pricing however you’re looking around $80 per vial.
They also share test results for all of their products to maintain transparency and legitimacy

 

[toxic avenger]

Yeah mate you could alternate between sus and test E if you wanted, your weekly dose on the standalone Test E if running 0.5ml would be marginally higher that the Sus (25mg).

I can personally vouch for @gearmaniac101 as I have used them multiple times, as have others, and they have proven to be professional and reputable.
You can contact them directly via the Telegram app (same username) and yes Bitcoin is used for purchases. They can provide pricing however you’re looking around $80 per vial.
They also share test results for all of their products to maintain transparency and legitimacy

Thanks Bro for the info on gearmaniac101, i can only give them a try...appreciate that.

 

[Fredqld]

the down side of this was that it also diminished my stores of iron so after my 5th visit i had an iron infusion from him.

My wife takes Ferro Grad C with the red cap, and it seems to work well for her iron levels. However, red meat is much better for iron absorption. I have tried taking Tongkat Ali at a relatively high dosage, but I saw no results regarding my testosterone levels.

 

[toxic avenger]

Hi Mate.

Yes i consulted with a health centre up here and they use Tongkat Ali in one formulation in an oral dose, i wont pay the price they ask plus these orals have to be broken down again to be absorbed into our system which lessons the impact and strength. I will go back to a smaller dose of test E 300 and sus 250 to -5ml once a week of one then alternate to the other when that one is finished, i know at my age i will have to stay on Test indefinitely as I've been on it for a very long time and even with clomid after my levels my natural levels will prob take a long time to come back.

I have been told on this forum that gearmaniac101, has good products, he stands by his product and shows test results, what's your opinion on all of what i have said..

 

[tuffnuts]

G'day bud, if you're keen to get back on the gear, it's all about that perfect dose. Going with the 1ml every 12 days and monitoring it with blood tests is best I reckon. With the blood thickening, theresa few options. Phlebotomy is a great option. There's also cupping for drawing out excess blood, I seen it here from one the members and also read about it, it's actually pretty good. Another option is to chat with your GP about low dose aspirin.

I wouldn't waste my time or money on these natural test boosters.

 

[toxic avenger]

My wife takes Ferro Grad C with the red cap, and it seems to work well for her iron levels. However, red meat is much better for iron absorption. I have tried taking Tongkat Ali at a relatively high dosage, but I saw no results regarding my testosterone levels.

Hi mate, i also take a good iron supp tab i get mine from Iherb, they have good products. I agree the best form of Iron is the Heme protein's which are the animal meats, red meat being a great source of iron.
I have been recommended from another member on here for me to buy my gear of gearmaniac101, are you aware of this person...
Thanks Freqld.

 

[toxic avenger]

G'day bud, if you're keen to get back on the gear, it's all about that perfect dose. Going with the 1ml every 12 days and monitoring it with blood tests is best I reckon. With the blood thickening, theresa few options. Phlebotomy is a great option. There's also cupping for drawing out excess blood, I seen it here from one the members and also read about it, it's actually pretty good. Another option is to chat with your GP about low dose aspirin.

I wouldn't waste my time or money on these natural test boosters.

Hey cobba.
Thanks for your info, i am going to take -5ml once a week which is almost identical to your suggestion of 1ml every 12 days, the benefit of having it every 7 days is that it keeps the levels higher then taking every 12 days, as the half life of these products works immediately after injection.

Last year i had 5 venesections [500 ml of blood withdrawn} each session, same thing as Phlebotomist does, and it brought my red blood cells down but also killed off my iron levels, i than had an iron infusion all carried out by my GP.

I have been using Cartia which is a low dose slow release aspirin, available over the counter and i also live on fish oil and garlic these 3 keep my blood thinner.

Thanks for you insight tuffnuts, appreciate that.
toxic avenger

 

[tuffnuts]

Hey cobba.
Thanks for your info, i am going to take -5ml once a week which is almost identical to your suggestion of 1ml every 12 days, the benefit of having it every 7 days is that it keeps the levels higher then taking every 12 days, as the half life of these products works immediately after injection.

Last year i had 5 venesections [500 ml of blood withdrawn} each session, same thing as Phlebotomist does, and it brought my red blood cells down but also killed off my iron levels, i than had an iron infusion all carried out by my GP.

I have been using Cartia which is a low dose slow release aspirin, available over the counter and i also live on fish oil and garlic these 3 keep my blood thinner.

Thanks for you insight tuffnuts, appreciate that.
toxic avenger

You know what you're doing legend!!

 

[toxic avenger]

You know what you're doing legend!!

Thanks mate I've been in the game in every venue, owned supp shops and sponsored nabba's, but the secret is not what you know as much as who you know..

 

[Fredqld]

my gear of gearmaniac101, are you aware of this person...
Thanks Freqld.

100%, very professional, fast

 

[sillychilli]

100%, very professional, fast

I can vouch for them as well @toxic avenger

 

[toxic avenger]

100%, very professional, fast

Thanks mate

100%, very professional, fast

Im trying to download telegraph onto my laptop, i get to the end where i put my mobile number in so telegraph can send me a code to put into box on telegram, but the code never comes, hmmm? I will try a few more times if no luck will get my compt tech to look, tried youtube for an answer, tried what they suggested but no luck.

 

[toxic avenger]

I can vouch for them as well @toxic avenger

Im trying to download telegraph onto my laptop, so i can contact gearmaniac101, i get to the end where i put my mobile number in so telegraph can send me a code to put into box on telegram, but the code never comes, hmmm? I will try a few more times if no luck will get my compt tech to look, tried youtube for an answer, tried what they suggested but no luck.

 

[sillychilli]

Im trying to download telegraph onto my laptop, so i can contact gearmaniac101, i get to the end where i put my mobile number in so telegraph can send me a code to put into box on telegram, but the code never comes, hmmm? I will try a few more times if no luck will get my compt tech to look, tried youtube for an answer, tried what they suggested but no luck.

You'd need to downloadon your mobile as an app, I dont think it'll work through laptop. Once you have it on phone it works like any other messenger app.