Gh and test advise.

[kippa88]

Hey legends I need some advice with gh and test together, I am 37 and about to start my second cycle of test only and want to know if it's worth throwing in some gh? and how long and how much should I use? my main goal is too build more lean muscle, is it ok to run gh while blasting test? Do you pin the same days as test? If someone can give me the run down that would be great, also how long before I notice any gains from gh? Is it worth running a heavy dose for just a 15 week cycle or waste of money thanks in advance.

 

[smutthers]

If you’re only planning to run GH for 15 weeks alongside your Test, not worth the coin. GH’s not like Test where you feel it kick in after a few weeks. It’s a slow burner, works more in the background and really shines when you’re on it consistently for 6 months+. That’s when you start seeing proper lean gains, better sleep, recovery etc. etc..

As for dosing, stick to 2 to 4 IU a day, no need to go crazy. More than that and the sides can creep in unless you’re advanced or genetically blessed. Best to pin it every day, either first thing in the morning fasted or split it up. Some do half in the morning and half before bed. Doesn’t need to line up with your Test shots, totally separate timing. You’ll probably notice better sleep and fat loss after a few weeks, but the real gains take time and best results come closer to 6 months if you stick with it.

GH is more of a long-term investment.

 

[crackers]

If you’re chasing lean mass fast, GH isn’t the tool for the job short term. It’s not magic. Think of it more like compounding interest, slow gains that add up over time. If you're not committing to 6+ months, don't bother. Save the cash, run your Test properly, dial in your food and recovery, and revisit GH when you're ready to go the distance. 15 weeks of GH won’t move the needle enough to justify the spend.

 

[doc]

A second compound such as mast, primo, EQ ,NPP or Anavar would probably be more beneficial & a lot cheaper than hgh. Peptides & SARM’s also help release Hgh but it’s probably not the best option for you at the moment. Get diet, training and well proven basic compounds sorted first. Hgh is very mild in comparison and requires daily injections for months.

 

[kippa88]

A second compound such as mast, primo, EQ ,NPP or Anavar would probably be more beneficial & a lot cheaper than hgh. Peptides & SARM’s also help release Hgh but it’s probably not the best option for you at the moment. Get diet, training and well proven basic compounds sorted first. Hgh is very mild in comparison and requires daily injections for months.

Thanks for your help doc, my diet and training is pretty on point, I've cut out all alcohol soft drinks and junk food all meals are fresh and home cooked, my bloods are good and feel great I just want something extra to help me workout and build a great solid body, my next cycle will just be test and anavar for now I'm scared to try any other compound because I don't want to loose my hair

 

[kippa88]

If you’re chasing lean mass fast, GH isn’t the tool for the job short term. It’s not magic. Think of it more like compounding interest, slow gains that add up over time. If you're not committing to 6+ months, don't bother. Save the cash, run your Test properly, dial in your food and recovery, and revisit GH when you're ready to go the distance. 15 weeks of GH won’t move the needle enough to justify the spend.

Thanks this is exactly the information I wanted.

 

[doc]

Thanks for your help doc, my diet and training is pretty on point, I've cut out all alcohol soft drinks and junk food all meals are fresh and home cooked, my bloods are good and feel great I just want something extra to help me workout and build a great solid body, my next cycle will just be test and anavar for now I'm scared to try any other compound because I don't want to loose my hair

I Var pre training. Small dose on training day still feels great for me but it won’t build bulk. No guarantee on hair( it’s DHT derived ) but I’ve had no issues with any I mentioned. Lower dosage oils are a little safer & more effective long term so keep that in mind for future

 

[kippa88]

I Var pre training. Small dose on training day still feels great for me but it won’t build bulk. No guarantee on hair( it’s DHT derived ) but I’ve had no issues with any I mentioned. Lower dosage oils are a little safer & more effective long term so keep that in mind for future

What is a good compound for bulk look ? I did try some dboll last cycle and definitely looked bulky but I feel like it was just water weight

 

[shaneo75]

Hey legends I need some advice with gh and test together, I am 37 and about to start my second cycle of test only and want to know if it's worth throwing in some gh? and how long and how much should I use? my main goal is too build more lean muscle, is it ok to run gh while blasting test? Do you pin the same days as test? If someone can give me the run down that would be great, also how long before I notice any gains from gh? Is it worth running a heavy dose for just a 15 week cycle or waste of money thanks in advance.

What do you want to achieve with throwing GH in the mix?

 

[doc]

What is a good compound for bulk look ? I did try some dboll last cycle and definitely looked bulky but I feel like it was just water weight

Decca or NPP which also lubricates joints, EQ if you want less fluid/ puffiness and athletic look.
Depends on your metabolism but those 2 have been utilised for many decades

 

[kippa88]

What do you want to achieve with throwing GH in the

Decca or NPP which also lubricates joints, EQ if you want less fluid/ puffiness and athletic look.
Depends on your metabolism but those 2 have been utilised for many decades

Awesome I am excited and jumping the gun again, I will just stick with another test and var cycle for now, I will look into adding another compound in future cycles, gh would be nice However not in budget long term for now anyway.

 

[keith432]

Decca or NPP which also lubricates joints, EQ if you want less fluid/ puffiness and athletic look.
Depends on your metabolism but those 2 have been utilised for many decades

 

[kippa88]

Just ordered some npp give it a crack, how much should run along 300mg test?

 

[crackers]

Just ordered some npp give it a crack, how much should run along 300mg test?

Run 300mg NPP split mon/wed/fri to keep levels stable. Your Test E at 300mg a week can go mon and thurs at 150mg each

 

[kippa88]

Run 300mg NPP split mon/wed/fri to keep levels stable. Your Test E at 300mg a week can go mon and thurs at 150mg each

Is npp required intramuscular aswell or anywhere?

 

[crackers]

Is npp required intramuscular aswell or anywhere?

Needs to be injected intramuscular

 

[Dunstone]

Great advice by all GH is over rated

For me, testosterone and masteron (mast) are just good friends who work well together! Since this is your second cycle, and I'm not sure if you're a blast-and-cruise TRT guy, I recommend considering sports TRT as a very safe option. You could try a DHT-like masteron for 8 weeks at 150 mg of testosterone and 150-300 mg of masteron. After that, you can switch to a NOR19 compound like NPP (I personally prefer daily dosing of NPP) and see how you tolerate it.

If you're starting a blast, it's better to run your cycle a bit longer using as much testosterone as possible without including an aromatase inhibitor (AI). After that, you can add one more compound; in my opinion, a DHT derivative like Masteron or Primobolan would be a good choice.

Regarding oral steroids, Anavar is the best option due to its optimal side effect profile. It could be a great addition to the 300 mg of testosterone you’re planning. A typical dosage is 20 mg daily for 4 to 6 weeks, which is generally well tolerated.

Good luck