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Hi everyone . I am about to do a second cycle.
My forst ever cycle was 1 month on Test E .intra .
Has been 4 months since then and was thinking the following.
Would like to cut a bit more before so was thinking
1 month on Reta (dosage suggestion welcome)
2 months on Test E ( dosage suggestions welcome ,I can't remember how much I did first time . I think 120mg twice a week for 5 weeks)
3 Novaldex /clomid for pct if Estrogen gets high.
WIll do all bloods -pre/mid/post .
You guys think is a good plan ?
Any advice welcome .
Cheers
 
I don't know why you would run test for 1 month? Anyways, reta isn’t really a 4 week thing, you'd run it longer term to actually see results.

You'd do 12+ weeks with Test and nolva/clomid is for PCT after not something you just throw in if estrogen gets high.
 
Wow just wow!

Firstly how old are you, training experience, diet currently deficit/maintenance/surplus, and current condition

4 weeks test e is disastrous. What was your plan that first ‘cycle’?

You can out-train a poor diet, or medicate yourself to an amazing physique

As most have said… 250mg Test E for 12wks is a beginner cycle and you shouldn't need estrogen mx, but monitor.

Reta- again this is a longer term plan, will work well with your Test E. Start low and build the dose which could be a potential increase every 4 weeks is steady result stall. Low I meant 0.5mg a week or 250mcg twice week.
 
bodoo said:
Hi everyone . I am about to do a second cycle.
My forst ever cycle was 1 month on Test E .intra .
Has been 4 months since then and was thinking the following.
Would like to cut a bit more before so was thinking
1 month on Reta (dosage suggestion welcome)
2 months on Test E ( dosage suggestions welcome ,I can't remember how much I did first time . I think 120mg twice a week for 5 weeks)
3 Novaldex /clomid for pct if Estrogen gets high.
WIll do all bloods -pre/mid/post .
You guys think is a good plan ?
Any advice welcome .
Cheers
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Thanks for replies guys .
I'm sorry , I know my first cycle(if you could call it that) was a bit of a nonsense but I went in blind with no advice and no bloods.
That's why I am here now seeking advice so please don' t be toxic about it and keep it to helpful comments.
A bit more insight.
I am 40 yo
90kg
Been training for just over a year and eating healthy for over a year
4-5 days a week training weights and light cardio(abt 150 cal per sesh)
Prior this I haven't been training for 20 years lol so my muscles were non existent .(skinny fat type)
I also lost about 15 kg since starting a year ago.
I have now build up some lean mass but hit a plateu with weight and muscle mass,or at least very very slow progress.
Atm I'm doing OMAD not counting calouries but eating lean chicken/salmon/beef and veggies every meal, no sauces ,minimal carbs(potatoes/rice).
Once again I know clean training is better but I would like to get to a good condition faster and then mantain so please respect my decision.
So from your comments I take I should do 250mg weekly x 12 weeks.
Should reta be stacked or done previously for about 12 weeks?
Regarding clomid , I was advised to start taking if estrogen too high and nipples get funny ,which they did start tingle mut nothing major.provably just freaking out mentally about getting boobs 😂.If you have something else to suggest go ahead .

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge it is very much appreciated .
 
not being toxic.. we're actually being nice 🤣

First thing... your plateau isn’t drugs, it’s diet. One meal a day + low carbs at 90kg training 4 to 5 times week is holding you back. You’re under fuelling. Add more meals and carbs around training and you’ll progress again.

If you run it, keep it simple: Test E @ 250 to 300mg a week for 12 to 16 weeks. No need to overcomplicate it.

Reta, yes, start low and titrate up. Most guys start around 1 to 2mg per week, see how appetite and sides are then increase slowly every few weeks if needed. It’s not a quick fix it’s long term appetite control so don’t expect much in just a few weeks.

Estrogem... clomid/nolva is for PCT after, not on cycle. If you get actual high E2 sides (not just overthinking), that’s where an AI would be used, not SERMs.

Sort your food first, keep the cycle basic and you’ll get way more out of it.
 
Great advice above. Only thing I’d add is at 40, you need be realistic with recovery. Don’t assume PCT will bring you back to baseline, best to have a plan if it doesn’t. Also with NPP/Test, keep an eye on prolactin sides like libido & mood), not just estrogen. Apart from that, food is the main limiter here like he said.
 
Everyone has said the same thing above and are spot on.

Regarding Reta, firstly if you are doing fasting with OMAD then you probably don’t need Reta, sounds like you are already in a deficit. But like @slider45 said, you’re not getting enough fuel, you won’t hit your protein goal you need on Test-e.

I am presently running exactly what your talking about, and for the first time too. I started with Reta at 0.5mg once per week, and titrated up to now 2mg once a week and this is my sweet spot.

I have been on Test-e now for 5 weeks and started with 200mg per week in two doses (mon/thurs) I am now at 300mg per week and I will stay here for another 5-7 weeks. I am only this week feeling the benefits.

If you do get Reta, don’t forget your BAC water to reconstitute it, I used 2ml. I was also provided with the following link to a peptide calculator:

Peptide Calculator | Particle Peptides

Calculate the precise dosage of peptides with our easy-to-use calculator. A reliable tool for accurate research purposes.
particlepeptides.com particlepeptides.com

I used @ozsteroidsofficial as he currently has Reta.

And Yes, you have to pay $10 to download Threema 😁
 
CBH said:
Hey, I’m just planning my own PCT, can you give more info on what sort of plan I can put in incase it doesn’t go back to baseline?
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Wait 2 weeks after your last pin, then run Nolva 40mg every day for 2 weeks then 20mg every day for another 2 weeks. That’s your full PCT done. Then 4 to 5 weeks after finishing get bloods and look at total test, LH and FSH. What you want is test back in normal range and LH/FSH also in range. That means your body’s producing again. If test is low and LH/FSH are low, you’re still shut down. If test is low but LH/FSH are high, your body’s trying but not recovering properly. Problem is that as we get older PCT isn’t a guarantee but it does give you the best shot at switching yourself back on. Hope that helps
 
sorry.. so if you don’t bounce back after PCT, don’t guess, get bloods again. If test is low and LH/FSH are low, you’re still shut down and might need more time or another push. If test is low but LH/FSH are normal or high, your body isn’t recovering properly. That’s when TRT becomes the realistic option.
 
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