Second ever cycle

[bodoo]

Hi everyone . I am about to do a second cycle.
My forst ever cycle was 1 month on Test E .intra .
Has been 4 months since then and was thinking the following.
Would like to cut a bit more before so was thinking
1 month on Reta (dosage suggestion welcome)
2 months on Test E ( dosage suggestions welcome ,I can't remember how much I did first time . I think 120mg twice a week for 5 weeks)
3 Novaldex /clomid for pct if Estrogen gets high.
WIll do all bloods -pre/mid/post .
You guys think is a good plan ?
Any advice welcome .
Cheers

 

[tuffnuts]

1 month on Test is no cycle . You won't have seen much from that. Run it for 12 weeks at 250mg a week.

 

[ozzyboy]

I don't know why you would run test for 1 month? Anyways, reta isn’t really a 4 week thing, you'd run it longer term to actually see results.

You'd do 12+ weeks with Test and nolva/clomid is for PCT after not something you just throw in if estrogen gets high.

 

[Dunstone]

Wow just wow!

Firstly how old are you, training experience, diet currently deficit/maintenance/surplus, and current condition

4 weeks test e is disastrous. What was your plan that first ‘cycle’?

You can out-train a poor diet, or medicate yourself to an amazing physique

As most have said… 250mg Test E for 12wks is a beginner cycle and you shouldn't need estrogen mx, but monitor.

Reta- again this is a longer term plan, will work well with your Test E. Start low and build the dose which could be a potential increase every 4 weeks is steady result stall. Low I meant 0.5mg a week or 250mcg twice week.

 

[slider45]

Hi everyone . I am about to do a second cycle.
My forst ever cycle was 1 month on Test E .intra .
Has been 4 months since then and was thinking the following.
Would like to cut a bit more before so was thinking
1 month on Reta (dosage suggestion welcome)
2 months on Test E ( dosage suggestions welcome ,I can't remember how much I did first time . I think 120mg twice a week for 5 weeks)
3 Novaldex /clomid for pct if Estrogen gets high.
WIll do all bloods -pre/mid/post .
You guys think is a good plan ?
Any advice welcome .
Cheers

Top plan

 

[bodoo]

Thanks for replies guys .
I'm sorry , I know my first cycle(if you could call it that) was a bit of a nonsense but I went in blind with no advice and no bloods.
That's why I am here now seeking advice so please don' t be toxic about it and keep it to helpful comments.
A bit more insight.
I am 40 yo
90kg
Been training for just over a year and eating healthy for over a year
4-5 days a week training weights and light cardio(abt 150 cal per sesh)
Prior this I haven't been training for 20 years lol so my muscles were non existent .(skinny fat type)
I also lost about 15 kg since starting a year ago.
I have now build up some lean mass but hit a plateu with weight and muscle mass,or at least very very slow progress.
Atm I'm doing OMAD not counting calouries but eating lean chicken/salmon/beef and veggies every meal, no sauces ,minimal carbs(potatoes/rice).
Once again I know clean training is better but I would like to get to a good condition faster and then mantain so please respect my decision.
So from your comments I take I should do 250mg weekly x 12 weeks.
Should reta be stacked or done previously for about 12 weeks?
Regarding clomid , I was advised to start taking if estrogen too high and nipples get funny ,which they did start tingle mut nothing major.provably just freaking out mentally about getting boobs .If you have something else to suggest go ahead .

Thank you again for sharing your knowledge it is very much appreciated .

 

[slider45]

not being toxic.. we're actually being nice

First thing... your plateau isn’t drugs, it’s diet. One meal a day + low carbs at 90kg training 4 to 5 times week is holding you back. You’re under fuelling. Add more meals and carbs around training and you’ll progress again.

If you run it, keep it simple: Test E @ 250 to 300mg a week for 12 to 16 weeks. No need to overcomplicate it.

Reta, yes, start low and titrate up. Most guys start around 1 to 2mg per week, see how appetite and sides are then increase slowly every few weeks if needed. It’s not a quick fix it’s long term appetite control so don’t expect much in just a few weeks.

Estrogem... clomid/nolva is for PCT after, not on cycle. If you get actual high E2 sides (not just overthinking), that’s where an AI would be used, not SERMs.

Sort your food first, keep the cycle basic and you’ll get way more out of it.