Hey new to bodybuilding any advanced advice appreciated :)

Darts55

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Hey I am new to bodybuilding and have been watching stuff on you tube (Athlean X, Dr Mike, Greg Doucette) and just joined these forums yesterday hoping to learn more about the ropes.

I have worked out for over two years now consistently. I am 29 years old, 192cm, 83kg. I worked out a lot when I was younger but not seriously, (age 17-24) and then stopped for 3 years as I also put on a lot of weight. I am looking to do a cycle of Test E at 350mg to start with and wondering if I should add in anything else. Also after the PCT is over I am wondering how long until you can cycle anything and what kind of cycles do people usually recommend for people looking to get into serious bodybuilding? I am dedicated to progress and wanna improve my physique.

My training routine is 5-6 days Arnold Split (Chest + Back x2, Arms x2, Legs x1) and 3 days 5km Jog and every day 10k steps.

My Exercises are usually:
Chest/Back Day:

Pull ups 8 x 5
Flat bench dumbbell press (6-8 x 3) currently at around 37.5-40kg per arm.
Incline bench dumbbell press (6-8 x 3)
Chest fly machine (8-10x3)
Lateral pulldown (6-8 x 3)
Dips (2 sets of 10-12)
Cable pulls or barbell rows (6-8 x 3)
Once a week I do deadlifts at start of workout (6 x 2 or 3 sets)

Arms Day:
Chin ups 8 x 5
Barbell curls (6 x 3) + Lateral raises (12 x 3) superset
Shoulder dumbell press (8 x 3) + shrugs (12 x 3) superset
Tricep pulldown (10-12 x 3)
Bicep curls (6-10 x 3)
Bicep lateral pulldown (6 x 2)
Then sometimes end there or do some face lifts or some tricep skull crushers (12 x 2).

Every other day I also do
3 x 1 minute planks
30 x 5 crunches
25 x 5 push ups

Cardio:
3 x 5km jog a week
10k steps daily

Legs:
Not my focus atm as my upper body is lacking so much growth potential. I usually do the quad press machine, calf raise, leg curls, my gym is really small atm but looking to go to a gym that has more equipment.


My calories at the moment I am on a cut (2000) but usually do about 2500.
Every day I eat pre much the same thing atm:
Breakfast: Protein Shake (30g) + Protein bar (45g) (500 calories, 75g protein)
After workout: Bowl of Milo with Almond Milk (300 calories)
Lunch: Sandwich with 200g of ham and 1 slice cheese (500 calories) (50g protein)
Dinner: Muscle chef meal (roughly 500calories each and 50g protein)
Snack: 200 calories (Ice cream, popcorn)
Usually I would also add in an extra chicken sandwich or an extra muscle chef meal but now I am trying to cut fat (target 2500ish calories). (Probably 18% atm and want to get to sub 15% before cycle, my long term goal is sub 10%).
Total: 2000 calories, roughly 200g protein. I am definitely going to bump it up to 3000-3500 while on cycle. I don't have a kitchen atm lol but when I get access to one I will change this to having more variety.

Every week I get a treat meal of fish and chips or kebab which would be around a 3000 calorie day.

I want to work on a log but need to start from scratch because I am moving cities and have planned a new diet.
 

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That's a good first post bro. I can see your main issue right now is lack of size, not gear. You’ll honestly get more gains by pushing food first. If you do cycle, do Test only for a first cycle. No need to stack it with anything else. Your training looks decent, but only hitting legs once will limit overall growth my brother. That needs to come up.
 
That's a good first post bro. I can see your main issue right now is lack of size, not gear. You’ll honestly get more gains by pushing food first. If you do cycle, do Test only for a first cycle. No need to stack it with anything else. Your training looks decent, but only hitting legs once will limit overall growth my brother. That needs to come up.
Thanks bro I am kind of worried about eating too much because of putting on more fat. I am trying to lean out a bit before I cycle so I can then bulk. I am thinking of waiting 6 months before I do a cycle and put on more muscle.
 
It really just comes down to your goal bro. If the goal is to put on muscle then that’s going to come from consistent training and a calorie surplus, not the gear itself. At your size I wouldn’t worry too much about getting leaner first. You’re better off eating clean, staying in a slight surplus and focusing on progressing in the gym. That’s what going to actually drive growth.
 
It really just comes down to your goal bro. If the goal is to put on muscle then that’s going to come from consistent training and a calorie surplus, not the gear itself. At your size I wouldn’t worry too much about getting leaner first. You’re better off eating clean, staying in a slight surplus and focusing on progressing in the gym. That’s what going to actually drive growth.
Thanks for your advice much appreciated. I will look into now eating at a surplus and see how that goes. I am hoping to get some benefits from cycling Test E first, would I be ok to go after 4-6 months or should I leave it for way later?
 
Glad we could help. Get your blood work done first to check levels and markers before you jump on a cycle.
 
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