Test E, Deca, DBOL Cycle

[justcause]

Hi, starting my first 12 week cycle. Ive been training over the past 3 years. I plan to take weight gainer as well as protein shakes between my 5 meals, train hard 4 days a week to allow rest in between, my goal is to bulk up.

Here it is:

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-6 dbol @ 40mg ed
Weeks 13-15 nolva and clomid, milk thistle
pinning every Mon & Thurs

I am mixing the test e and deca, 1 ml outa each bottle gives 2ml a jag. twice a week

Any advice on this cycle if you think it would be a good first cycle, please let me know...any information appreciated. Thanks!

 

[snowman]

Hey bro, this is one of the best first cycles out there that you could start with. I don't see any mention of using an ai while on cycle. If you can, I would try and add Arimidex at .5mg/ed or 1mg/eod or Aromasin(I prefer this one) at 12.5mg/ed. This will reduce water weight and not to mention some of the very possible estrogenic sides that you will encounter with dbol and deca. Also, with deca/19-nor, it's a good idea to add Caber in at .5mg every other third day(because of half life) to reduce decas effect on prolactin.

 

[gearsolid]

Overall cycle looks fine to me.

Just with your protein shakes.....best mass gaining shake is 2 scoops whey, 6 eggs, 500mls milk, 120g heavy cream or oil, and I add 1 cup of oats for extra carbs - flavour with vanilla extract, honey or whatever. Adjust the recipe to suit your needs, but leave the oats in it.

 

[El negro tigro]

Hi, starting my first 12 week cycle. Ive been training over the past 3 years. I plan to take weight gainer as well as protein shakes between my 5 meals, train hard 4 days a week to allow rest in between, my goal is to bulk up.

Here it is:

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-6 dbol @ 40mg ed
Weeks 13-15 nolva and clomid, milk thistle
pinning every Mon & Thurs

I am mixing the test e and deca, 1 ml outa each bottle gives 2ml a jag. twice a week

Any advice on this cycle if you think it would be a good first cycle, please let me know...any information appreciated. Thanks!

No need for the deca and the oral first cycle . But **** it do it if yiu wnat

 

[El negro tigro]

Overall cycle looks fine to me.

Just with your protein shakes.....best mass gaining shake is 2 scoops whey, 6 eggs, 500mls milk, 120g heavy cream or oil, and I add 1 cup of oats for extra carbs - flavour with vanilla extract, honey or whatever. Adjust the recipe to suit your needs, but leave the oats in it.

****s gonna be fatter than me when he’s done

 

[CCG]

Add in p5p vitamin it'll help you with prolactin build up around the 4/5 week mark where things get sensitive.. dreaded deca tren nips..

 

[CCG]

****s gonna be fatter than me when he’s done

 

[justcause]

****s gonna be fatter than me when he’s done

**** yeah

 

[mung_bean]

Hi, starting my first 12 week cycle. Ive been training over the past 3 years. I plan to take weight gainer as well as protein shakes between my 5 meals, train hard 4 days a week to allow rest in between, my goal is to bulk up.

Here it is:

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-6 dbol @ 40mg ed
Weeks 13-15 nolva and clomid, milk thistle
pinning every Mon & Thurs

I am mixing the test e and deca, 1 ml outa each bottle gives 2ml a jag. twice a week

Any advice on this cycle if you think it would be a good first cycle, please let me know...any information appreciated. Thanks!

Hi justcause,
It's great you got a well thought out plan for your first cycle mate, nice work. I see your diet and training plan is going to be dialled in. I'd recommend to get your bloods done before you start your cycle so you know where you stand in terms of your health markers. This is very important.
The cycle you mentioned is a tried and tested old school bulking cycle. It's still around because it works. In any case, be prepared for heavy aromatisation, especially if you haven't used gear before. Have an A.I. on hand. With those compounds at your doses you mentioned you're definitely gonna need it!

Justcause, with your diet and training sorted you're gonna grow regardless, and if you really want more gains then just start out at 250mg of test E /week for your first cycle. You will grow on it. See how your body reacts to it and go from there. At this dose side effects are minimal. You want your first cycle to be fun and enjoyable, not worrying about growing tits or having sky high blood pressure. In the meantime keep doing your research and learn all that you can on this topic and keep lifting matey!

Good luck.

Cheers

 

[justcause]

Hi justcause,
It's great you got a well thought out plan for your first cycle mate, nice work. I see your diet and training plan is going to be dialled in. I'd recommend to get your bloods done before you start your cycle so you know where you stand in terms of your health markers. This is very important.
The cycle you mentioned is a tried and tested old school bulking cycle. It's still around because it works. In any case, be prepared for heavy aromatisation, especially if you haven't used gear before. Have an A.I. on hand. With those compounds at your doses you mentioned you're definitely gonna need it!

Justcause, with your diet and training sorted you're gonna grow regardless, and if you really want more gains then just start out at 250mg of test E /week for your first cycle. You will grow on it. See how your body reacts to it and go from there. At this dose side effects are minimal. You want your first cycle to be fun and enjoyable, not worrying about growing tits or having sky high blood pressure. In the meantime keep doing your research and learn all that you can on this topic and keep lifting matey!

Good luck.

Cheers

Thanks for your detailed response... Appreciate it!

 

[GearUp]

For first cycle people generally got 500mg test e a week

 

[Dan30185]

Hi, starting my first 12 week cycle. Ive been training over the past 3 years. I plan to take weight gainer as well as protein shakes between my 5 meals, train hard 4 days a week to allow rest in between, my goal is to bulk up.

Here it is:

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-6 dbol @ 40mg ed
Weeks 13-15 nolva and clomid, milk thistle
pinning every Mon & Thurs

I am mixing the test e and deca, 1 ml outa each bottle gives 2ml a jag. twice a week

Any advice on this cycle if you think it would be a good first cycle, please let me know...any information appreciated. Thanks!

I think for a first cycle , testosterone only is best. But if going to do the others , which I'm sure you've decided to do already, I will give my personal experience. Nandrolone has an affinity with prolactin , prolactin feeds off estradiol or e2. The more test you use the more 5 alpha reductase activity. It seems counter intuitive, but a piece of avoiding unwanted adverse effects from deca is actually reducing the amount of test. Personally I think you don't need to run 500/500, I don't think on a first cycle there's at all a need for that. In my experience with nandrolones , my best cycles have been running 250mg of test and 350mg of deca, the test is really only the base not the " working compound " whenever I use a 19 nor now. I wouldnt run dbol for 6 weeks, run it for 4 . Also , you should be using dostinex if your gonna run deca at 500 and run aromosin or arimidex too. It's tried true and tested the test/deca/dbol . But there's potential to look like the marshmallow man out of ghostbusters too. I think your doses are too high for a first cycle

 

[RelentlessRoger]

I think for a first cycle , testosterone only is best. But if going to do the others , which I'm sure you've decided to do already, I will give my personal experience. Nandrolone has an affinity with prolactin , prolactin feeds off estradiol or e2. The more test you use the more 5 alpha reductase activity. It seems counter intuitive, but a piece of avoiding unwanted adverse effects from deca is actually reducing the amount of test. Personally I think you don't need to run 500/500, I don't think on a first cycle there's at all a need for that. In my experience with nandrolones , my best cycles have been running 250mg of test and 350mg of deca, the test is really only the base not the " working compound " whenever I use a 19 nor now. I wouldnt run dbol for 6 weeks, run it for 4 . Also , you should be using dostinex if your gonna run deca at 500 and run aromosin or arimidex too. It's tried true and tested the test/deca/dbol . But there's potential to look like the marshmallow man out of ghostbusters too. I think your doses are too high for a first cycle

I plan on running a test/deca/dbol cycle in the coming week or fortnight. This will be my 2nd cycle after my first being just 200mg of Test C which was great. my planned dosage was 200deca and 400 Test E. Most of the research I've done suggested ur test should be double ur deca dosage and most ppl I've talked to suggested running the dbol for only 4 weeks. I'm just wondering if I should be concerned with doing any PCT or running anything else with this dosage to avoid any estrogenic side effects or if I should even adjust my current proposed dosages. I've done my bloods and they came back fine but I've heard deca can really tank ur test production post-cycle. Any advice would be appreciated, cheers.

 

[Dan30185]

I plan on running a test/deca/dbol cycle in the coming week or fortnight. This will be my 2nd cycle after my first being just 200mg of Test C which was great. my planned dosage was 200deca and 400 Test E. Most of the research I've done suggested ur test should be double ur deca dosage and most ppl I've talked to suggested running the dbol for only 4 weeks. I'm just wondering if I should be concerned with doing any PCT or running anything else with this dosage to avoid any estrogenic side effects or if I should even adjust my current proposed dosages. I've done my bloods and they came back fine but I've heard deca can really tank ur test production post-cycle. Any advice would be appreciated, cheers.

Prolactin affinity with 19 nortestosterones is brought about by estradiol. Doubling your test over deca is a way to overcome certain adverse effects with nandrolone, you can do that and have to use a suicidal class inhibitor like aromosin and a dopamine agonist like dostinex. Or you can just use less test. I would argue that doubling your test whilst an intuitive thing to do, is a counter-productive thing to do. Your doses are mild , so I wouldn't concern myself if I were you, but the double your test over nandrolone ideology , isn't something I'd agree with myself. Drop the deca two weeks before the test , run the test past the deca by 2 weeks . You should be doing pct yes

 

[RelentlessRoger]

Prolactin affinity with 19 nortestosterones is brought about by estradiol. Doubling your test over deca is a way to overcome certain adverse effects with nandrolone, you can do that and have to use a suicidal class inhibitor like aromosin and a dopamine agonist like dostinex. Or you can just use less test. I would argue that doubling your test whilst an intuitive thing to do, is a counter-productive thing to do. Your doses are mild , so I wouldn't concern myself if I were you, but the double your test over nandrolone ideology , isn't something I'd agree with myself. Drop the deca two weeks before the test , run the test past the deca by 2 weeks . You should be doing pct yes

No worries. Thanks for the input, I appreciate it.

 

[vvv]

Hi, starting my first 12 week cycle. Ive been training over the past 3 years. I plan to take weight gainer as well as protein shakes between my 5 meals, train hard 4 days a week to allow rest in between, my goal is to bulk up.

Here it is:

Weeks 1-12 test e 500mg a week
Weeks 1-12 deca @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-6 dbol @ 40mg ed
Weeks 13-15 nolva and clomid, milk thistle
pinning every Mon & Thurs

I am mixing the test e and deca, 1 ml outa each bottle gives 2ml a jag. twice a week

Any advice on this cycle if you think it would be a good first cycle, please let me know...any information appreciated. Thanks!

Mate i want to get some test e 250mg/week, deca 250mg/week. This is my 10 weeks plan. What do you think ? I want a little bit of bulk and after this cycle i want to stay on steroid treatment permanently, without postcycle. I have 37 years old and i would like to keep up in shape.

Week Testosterone Enanthate Nandrolone D Danabol 10mg Tamoxifen Liv 52
1 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 2 pills/day 2 pills/day
2 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 3 pills/day 10mg/day 2 pills/day
3 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 3 pills/day 10mg/day 2 pills/day
4 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 4 pills/day 10mg/day 2 pills/day
5 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 3 pills/day 10mg/day 2 pills/day
6 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday) 3 pills/day 10mg/day 2 pills/day
7 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday)
8 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday)
9 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday)
10 1ml/week (Monday) 1ml/week (Thursday)