SubQ vs IM what’s better?

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Hi I wanted to pick your brains and experiences as I've always pinned into muscle using 23G (0.6x32mm) and 25G (0.5x16mm). Been seeing a lot of reels lately with guys doing TRT shots into belly fat or using insulin pins into muscle. I always thought you needed a longer needle to actually hit muscle, not just sit in fat. What's everyone doing and thought about this?

 

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Hi I wanted to pick your brains and experiences as I've always pinned into muscle using 23G (0.6x32mm) and 25G (0.5x16mm). Been seeing a lot of reels lately with guys doing TRT shots into belly fat or using insulin pins into muscle. I always thought you needed a longer needle to actually hit muscle, not just sit in fat. What's everyone doing and thought about this?

I’ve switched over to subq test injections from IM about 2 months ago and do prefer it now for convenience and blood level stability. Test can absolutely be done subq but you have to be quite particular with your protocol i have found.

Here’s my experience:

I was initially getting painful lumps of oil in my glute from subq test e 250mg that took a week to clear. Only doing 25 iu 3x per week as im on trt.

How lean are you? I’m pretty peeled and can basically only pin my glute and ventros for any oil and that obviously limits how much I can rotate sites.

Try to give each site at least 1 week, ideally 2 between pins

If you’re a bit higher bf%, I’d recommend glutes, ventro glutes, quads and if you’re above 15% can probably get away with stomach area but generally I’d recommend not putting oil there

What I’ve done to resolve it is changed out to 8mm slin pins (was using 13mm). This was the single biggest problem I think as I was going too deep and partly IM or at least below subq layer whatever the next one down is called. I’ve also started warming the vial up first given it’s getting colder now I think that was contributing (just hold it in your palm for 2 mins while you prep everything).

If you rotate around your glutes, ventros and quads that gives you 6 sites at least and even within those sites they’re big areas so you can hit a different spot in the same area.

Also obviously make sure you’re doing a proper technique of pinching the skin, stick the pin in at 45 degrees, release the pinch and inject slowly over 20-30 seconds, leave the pin in for 5-10 seconds then when you pull it out press down on the site for 10 seconds (don’t rub, just pressure).

Hopefully this helps you mate.