Old bloke question...

[tuffnuts]

G'day fellas, I'm 60yrs old and been lifting for 35+years and have every joint in my body hurt. I ain't gonna stop lifting as it's something that I enjoy and keeps me motivated in life. Currently on TRT 100mg a week, but I do a cycle every so often. Do you fellas have any advice for joint pain? Appreciate everyones opinions. Cheers!

 

[southboy]

Joint pain, not fun. Both Deca & NPP are great for joint health... also try adding GH at 1-2 IUs a day. Apart from other benefits GH can also help for joint repair and just overall recovery. Others may argue this but Anavar is also a decent option for joint support, although not as effective as the others but still an option. I'm guessing you've probably tried supplements so I won't bore you with that.

 

[shredder]

I agree with the deca and npp.

@tuffnuts Are you content with the TRT dosage your on? Have you always been on 100mg a week?

 

[stumpy]

A lot of weightlifters, including me, have found that Deca can really help with joint pain. There isn't a ton of scientific evidence, but it's known to help make your joints feel better. For many people, taking 300mg of Deca each week can really help. I had some shoulder pain, but after taking Deca, it got much better.

 

[hubbles]

G'day fellas, I'm 60yrs old and been lifting for 35+years and have every joint in my body hurt. I ain't gonna stop lifting as it's something that I enjoy and keeps me motivated in life. Currently on TRT 100mg a week, but I do a cycle every so often. Do you fellas have any advice for joint pain? Appreciate everyones opinions. Cheers!

Try adding NPP at 100-200mg per week... it kicks in faster than Deca and is great for joint relief. Boost your TRT to 200-250mg per week for better overall performance. If you can, throw in GH at 1-2 IUs per day as well.

 

[smutthers]

GH and NPP

 

[tuffnuts]

Thanks for the comments gents. Considering uping the dosage of my TRT to 200mg a week. Let's see if this makes a difference and I like the sounds of adding NPP. Don't know about the GH for now, just can't be bothered stabbing myself everyday lol.

 

[doc]

Thanks for the comments gents. Considering uping the dosage of my TRT to 200mg a week. Let's see if this makes a difference and I like the sounds of adding NPP. Don't know about the GH for now, just can't be bothered stabbing myself everyday lol.

I found adding decca or Npp was much more effective for joints than doubling Trt( which may also help) Usually use a bit less decca than test and remember that the joints will feel better but you can still do damage

 

[chinz]

100 mg per week sound low, joint pain not good, don't go to heavy, I'm done with pushing heavy, for years I go lighter with increased reps, scientific proof shows the end result is the same, remember we are constantly doing the same repetitive movements and that's also a cause of joint pain, work around it chip and change movement's, and now for the bad News, take a week or two off every now and then give the joints a break

 

[shaneo75]

G'day fellas, I'm 60yrs old and been lifting for 35+years and have every joint in my body hurt. I ain't gonna stop lifting as it's something that I enjoy and keeps me motivated in life. Currently on TRT 100mg a week, but I do a cycle every so often. Do you fellas have any advice for joint pain? Appreciate everyones opinions. Cheers!

Mate to be honest fish oil is the best I have found so far, but some of the peptides are good as well
BPC 157 and TB500 have great healing properties

 

[doc]

100 mg per week sound low, joint pain not good, don't go to heavy, I'm done with pushing heavy, for years I go lighter with increased reps, scientific proof shows the end result is the same, remember we are constantly doing the same repetitive movements and that's also a cause of joint pain, work around it chip and change movement's, and now for the bad News, take a week or two off every now and then give the joints a break

I’d love to find some proof that lighter weight has same end result. I’ve been following the sports medicine science since the 80’s and it seems opposite ( even for non strength athletes )
However even the researchers & presenters are still doing their medium to light repetition workouts despite the findings. They don’t like leaving the gym without a sweat & pump

 

[smutthers]

I’d love to find some proof that lighter weight has same end result. I’ve been following the sports medicine science since the 80’s and it seems opposite ( even for non strength athletes )
However even the researchers & presenters are still doing their medium to light repetition workouts despite the findings. They don’t like leaving the gym without a sweat & pump

I did a little googling and found these results. I don't know if it'll shed any light on the subject?

Effects of Low- vs. High-Load Resistance Training on Muscle Strength and Hypertrophy in Well-Trained Men - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to compare the effect of low- versus high-load resistance training (RT) on muscular adaptations in well-trained subjects. Eighteen young men experienced in RT were matched according to baseline strength and then randomly assigned to 1 of 2 experimental groups: a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effects of different volume-equated resistance training loading strategies on muscular adaptations in well-trained men - PubMed

Regimented resistance training has been shown to promote marked increases in skeletal muscle mass. Although muscle hypertrophy can be attained through a wide range of resistance training programs, the principle of specificity, which states that adaptations are specific to the nature of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Strength and Hypertrophy Adaptations Between Low- vs. High-Load Resistance Training: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis - PubMed

Schoenfeld, BJ, Grgic, J, Ogborn, D, and Krieger, JW. Strength and hypertrophy adaptations between low- vs. high-load resistance training: a systematic review and meta-****ysis. J Strength Cond Res 31(12): 3508-3523, 2017-The purpose of this article was to conduct a systematic review of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[doc]

I did a little googling and found these results. I don't know if it'll shed any light on the subject?

Effects of Low- vs. High-Load Resistance Training on Muscle Strength and Hypertrophy in Well-Trained Men - PubMed

The purpose of this study was to compare the effect of low- versus high-load resistance training (RT) on muscular adaptations in well-trained subjects. Eighteen young men experienced in RT were matched according to baseline strength and then randomly assigned to 1 of 2 experimental groups: a...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Effects of different volume-equated resistance training loading strategies on muscular adaptations in well-trained men - PubMed

Regimented resistance training has been shown to promote marked increases in skeletal muscle mass. Although muscle hypertrophy can be attained through a wide range of resistance training programs, the principle of specificity, which states that adaptations are specific to the nature of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

Strength and Hypertrophy Adaptations Between Low- vs. High-Load Resistance Training: A Systematic Review and Meta-analysis - PubMed

Schoenfeld, BJ, Grgic, J, Ogborn, D, and Krieger, JW. Strength and hypertrophy adaptations between low- vs. high-load resistance training: a systematic review and meta-****ysis. J Strength Cond Res 31(12): 3508-3523, 2017-The purpose of this article was to conduct a systematic review of the...

pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

 

[doc]

Thanks for that, should keep me busy for the night

 

[Mitch]

I'm 70 and I take BPC157 daily for joint pain...works well.

 

[doc]

They all appear to have significantly benefited from low rep training. A couple of misleading sentences indicate poor study designs - which is interesting because similar wording was used for each. Only temporary circumference measures came close with high reps - some of which is oedema and pump from the extra inflammation it caused. Lactic acid & many other toxins from high reps are gone in minutes