33 - First Cycle, any advice appreciated

[techk1ing]

Hey guys,
Just joined, and loving the advice the members give here, so I wanted to ask for myself
Been training for over 10 years + but haven't really achieved anything, and I know most of it is because of my nutrition. I've never really bulked properly (controlled calories, high protein) but this time I want the aid of a cycle + good diet

Height: 170cm
Current Weight: 75kg

I plan to do
Test E for 12 weeks, 400mg a week
HCG for 2 weeks after last pin
Nolvadex for 4 weeks

I am playing it safe, and getting my head around a cycle but what kind of gains can I expect eating at 2500 calories
I have gotten my blood work done, and my test is quite high
Attached some pics of current body, not the best but can get the jist

Any advice is appreciated! I am pretty set on doing a cycle, already have the stuff

 

[techk1ing]

Current supp stack

 

[shredder]

I'm assuming you're not on gear atm?

Your bloods are nothing to worry about. Test levels are fine, LH and FSH all good so you’re not suppressed and don’t need gear yet. ALT/AST are just a bit up but I'm guessing thats from training but its nothing serious. At 170 cm and 75 kg, 2500 cals is barely maintenance. You won’t grow even on 400 mg test unless you’re eating more. I personally don't think you need to touch anything right now, but thats just my opinion. Dial your foods up to around 3000 to 3500 (CLEAN) with proper protein and track it, everyday. Nail consistency for a few months and you’ll make progress naturally. Use the gear later when you’ve maxed that out. You’ll get way more out of it.

 

[techk1ing]

I was planning to start next Tuesday, I am quite keen on starting plus upping the calories. I'm happy to do another cycle, and then slow down on it but that's my plan

 

[G-Merc80]

If you're going to start a cycle, I suggest running 250mg Test E and get yourself an A.I, start slow and see how you respond.

 

[Homebrew49]

Hey guys,
Just joined, and loving the advice the members give here, so I wanted to ask for myself
Been training for over 10 years + but haven't really achieved anything, and I know most of it is because of my nutrition. I've never really bulked properly (controlled calories, high protein) but this time I want the aid of a cycle + good diet

Height: 170cm
Current Weight: 75kg

I plan to do
Test E for 12 weeks, 400mg a week
HCG for 2 weeks after last pin
Nolvadex for 4 weeks

I am playing it safe, and getting my head around a cycle but what kind of gains can I expect eating at 2500 calories
I have gotten my blood work done, and my test is quite high
Attached some pics of current body, not the best but can get the jist

Any advice is appreciated! I am pretty set on doing a cycle, already have the stuff

Hey guys,
Just joined, and loving the advice the members give here, so I wanted to ask for myself
Been training for over 10 years + but haven't really achieved anything, and I know most of it is because of my nutrition. I've never really bulked properly (controlled calories, high protein) but this time I want the aid of a cycle + good diet

Height: 170cm
Current Weight: 75kg

I plan to do
Test E for 12 weeks, 400mg a week
HCG for 2 weeks after last pin
Nolvadex for 4 weeks

I am playing it safe, and getting my head around a cycle but what kind of gains can I expect eating at 2500 calories
I have gotten my blood work done, and my test is quite high
Attached some pics of current body, not the best but can get the jist

Any advice is appreciated! I am pretty set on doing a cycle, already have the stuff

Hi, my advice is start with a low dose 200-300 mg a week for the first 4-6 weeks. Then get your bloods done again especially the sensitive E2 test which will give you the best idea of your E2 (oestrogen) level. If all in range then go up to 400mg per week for the last 6 weeks. You may find that you can do a cycle for 12 weeks at 200-300 mg a week and increase your calorie intake to around 3000 a day. The longer you stay on smaller amounts the longer you can keep on using without to many side effects. I would also get some Ai’s or some extra nolvadex just incase.

 

[techk1ing]

Thanks all for your responses, after reading through them, I've revised my plan/cycle
One thing I'm a but skeptical, my supplier said my vials of Test E are 1ml/400mg, is that possible? Everywhere I read its 1ml/250mg as standard

As for my plan
Increase calories to 3000+

Weeks 1- 12
Test E - Reduced to 300mg

Introduce HCG (500IU a week) around week 3 up until week 14
Have an AI on hand (Armidex)

Week 15
Start Nolva
40/40/20/20 mg

How does that sound?

 

[Homebrew49]

Thanks all for your responses, after reading through them, I've revised my plan/cycle
One thing I'm a but skeptical, my supplier said my vials of Test E are 1ml/400mg, is that possible? Everywhere I read its 1ml/250mg as standard

As for my plan
Increase calories to 3000+

Weeks 1- 12
Test E - Reduced to 300mg

Introduce HCG (500IU a week) around week 3 up until week 14
Have an AI on hand (Armidex)

Week 15
Start Nolva
40/40/20/20 mg

How does that sound?

Hi, your newly revised cycle, pct and calories sounds great. As for your Test-E 400, yes you can hold 400mg/ml in 1 ml of oil but if it is just a oil (met) / bb / ba mix then you might get some PIP or some swelling around the sight of injection because of the high amount of Test E . If your source is not the above oil solvent alcohol mix then it probably has Polyethylene Glycol , Propylene Glycol and Guiaicol which are all industrial solvents and will rise your C Reactive Protein through the roof. Check out the YouTube channel of Vigorous Steve he has a few videos about the dangers of industrial solvents in our gear.. But apart from all of that good luck and enjoy . Any questions fell free to keep on asking.

 

[shredder]

Introduce HCG (500IU a week) around week 3 up until week 14

Start the HCG from week 1

 

[techk1ing]

For those following at home
Did my first jab on the 21st of October, in the quad, hurt like a *****

If anyone has tips to do the delts, and able to aspirate with one hand, I will take it!

Start the HCG from week 1

How come from week 1?

 

[Homebrew49]

For those following at home
Did my first jab on the 21st of October, in the quad, hurt like a *****

If anyone has tips to do the delts, and able to aspirate with one hand, I will take it!



How come from week 1?

For those following at home
Did my first jab on the 21st of October, in the quad, hurt like a *****

If anyone has tips to do the delts, and able to aspirate with one hand, I will take it!



How come from week 1?

Hi, I never use my quads as I find my quads do not like it. On the other hand my delta , venture glutes and upper glutes are my best spots. I never aspirate as there is not to many veins or arteries in those spots. If you google site intramuscular injection or safe spots to IM inject. Plenty of nurses showing how to inject online as well. Also it might be your test if it is the 400mg /ml that is causing the pip. Good luck .

 

[techk1ing]

Hi, I never use my quads as I find my quads do not like it. On the other hand my delta , venture glutes and upper glutes are my best spots. I never aspirate as there is not to many veins or arteries in those spots. If you google site intramuscular injection or safe spots to IM inject. Plenty of nurses showing how to inject online as well. Also it might be your test if it is the 400mg /ml that is causing the pip. Good luck .

Thanks Homebrew49
Ill try the delts next time, I am injecting about 0.375ml at a time, but yeah I was warned with the the higher MG, by you hahah
I will look at some videos. I was shaking as its my first time self-injecting, so I think over time ill be calmer

 

[darkHORSE]

The whole point of HCG on cycle is to keep your nuts active while you’re shut down, not to wake them up after the fact. Run 250IU twice a week right through until your last test pin, then stop before PCT starts.

 

[techk1ing]

The whole point of HCG on cycle is to keep your nuts active while you’re shut down, not to wake them up after the fact. Run 250IU twice a week right through until your last test pin, then stop before PCT starts.

Do you suggesting pinning on the same day as Test E Jab Day? Im doing Tuesday & Fridays

 

[darkHORSE]

Yeah that’s perfect just pin on the same days. Keeps it simple and stable.

 

[techk1ing]

Random thought, for those who have a 1ml/250mg vial, and are doing 500mg, are they pinning a whole ml twice a week? Feels like you would be pinning for a while, is that how it is?

 

[techk1ing]

Also is it expected to lose some gear when jabbing? I have liquid stuck in the syring tip, and I can't push out. I have a photo, but unsure if I can post but uploaded here https://pixvid.org/image/kKbLa

 

[Homebrew49]

Random thought, for those who have a 1ml/250mg vial, and are doing 500mg, are they pinning a whole ml twice a week? Feels like you would be pinning for a while, is that how it is?

Hi techk1ng I always split up my doses even when I am on TRT (175mg test e week). I split it up into 2 shots. The more you split your shots up the less chance of side affects. At the moment I am about to start my last 8 week cycle/cut for the year and I will be doing 1 ml per day as I will be using 7ml a week. Invest in some 1 ml lure lock syringes and some 25guage/25mm or 27 gauge /19mm needles. Also you could just see how 2 jabs a week go and you might be all right and don’t need to do any more. Good luck

 

[Homebrew49]

Also is it expected to lose some gear when jabbing? I have liquid stuck in the syring tip, and I can't push out. I have a photo, but unsure if I can post but uploaded here https://pixvid.org/image/kKbLa

Yep you will always lose some in the needle. That’s why I only use the 32mm or 40 mm length needles for my upper glutes and use 25 mm or 19 mm needles for venture glutes and delts. I know I it used to piss me off as well when you end up with 1/2 to 1 ml short on your cycle from each bottle. I now just make mine at 10.5/11 ml in my 10ml bottles lol . But yes you will lose gear in your needle tip. Good luck

 

[techk1ing]

Thanks for all the info
I been getting my syringes and needles from the Victorian Needle and Syringe program
They don't have the screw, more just press on. I only have 1ml syringes, I'm assuming I will need 5ml if I ever need to jab 1ml/250mg?
I currently use the 1ml, and fill to 0.4ml since my vials are 400mg = two shots a week of 160mg
But I can't imagine filling up my whole 1ml syringe for a 1ml shot