How are you injecting whilst on cycle?

ChasetheCase

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I"m looking to run 300mg of Test E alongside 200mg of Deca for 10 weeks, it got me thinking as that's now 1.2ml of Test and 1ml of Deca a week.

I've been using a 27g 0.5" insulin syringe, have used both subq and IM to delts, but I've read you can only really get away with injecting 0.5ml in your delts due to post-injection pain, lumps, and slower absorption.

I've moved from subq to IM as was getting quite bad inflammation from MCT oil.

So if I need to inject 1.4ml a week and split into three doses that's still 0.73ml a time. Will I get away with injecting that much or will it cause issues? OR do I need to use multiple injection sites? Or just up to a 25G 1" needle and pump it all in?
 
I have tried SubQ and leg injections with disastrous results. Now, as advised many times here, I inject in the glute. No pain, no issues, even when using the same spot (the left side is hard to reach for me).
 
I currently pin twice a week, 200mg Test E 100mg Mast E into my quad. No problems at all. About 1.3ml per pin total using 25g 5/8”
 
Thanks both.

Just checked my needle exchange and I can get 5/8 needles, guess they'll be better for my ass. I've been a bit nervous about trying my VG, doesn't look that easy to find the right place. I'll just have to toughen up and try it as I'd much prefer this route than quads.
 
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I’ve personally found the quad the easiest. Each to their own of course. Just makes it easier to sit down and take pressure off the leg whilst seeing exactly what you’re doing the whole time. No pain, no lumps/swelling/redness etc. and typically a more desirable site for larger doses and smaller needles. Plenty of vids on YouTube as well about selecting pin sites etc
 
YAT35Y said:
I’ve personally found the quad the easiest. Each to their own of course. Just makes it easier to sit down and take pressure off the leg whilst seeing exactly what you’re doing the whole time. No pain, no lumps/swelling/redness etc. and typically a more desirable site for larger doses and smaller needles. Plenty of vids on YouTube as well about selecting pin sites etc
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Totally with you on the quads. Problem is, it kills my legs so bad I can't even walk. Tried a couple of times and had to throw in the towel. The injection goes in easy, but the aftermath? Brutal man! :ROFLMAO:
 
goksyd said:
Totally with you on the quads. Problem is, it kills my legs so bad I can't even walk. Tried a couple of times and had to throw in the towel. The injection goes in easy, but the aftermath? Brutal man! :ROFLMAO:
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That happened to me once when I went too low, properly ruined me for a good week hey could barely walk. I go halfway down from hip into the side of the quad and she’s 👌🏽
 
Most experienced athletes use IM as do most medical professionals. Read Fredqld’s experiences from last summer if you want the details.
Up to 1ml is ok for large shoulders and glutes are preferred for larger volumes. 25 x 1 should work for IM both spots , just a bit slower to load so often use 21 or 23 to fill then 23 or 25 to use
 
ChasetheCase said:
Thanks both.

Just checked my needle exchange and I can get 5/8 needles, guess they'll be better for my ass. I've been a bit nervous about trying my VG, doesn't look that easy to find the right place. I'll just have to toughen up and try it as I'd much prefer this route than quads.
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I’ve seen literature & tried VG - won’t do it again. No medical professionals I know will either. There’s a solid reason for using glutes for the last 70 years,if you get the correct spot it’s hardly noticeable if you’re only doing under 2ml a week.
 
@doc was looking to do VG this morning and chickened out, I realised how veiney it is, I couldn't really seem to either find the right place or thought I had found it and then realised it had quite a few vessels.

I've read into using glutes (dorsogluteal) and it's not generally a recommended site for IM, especially self IM, this was due to the risk of hitting the sciatic nerve and it has poor or even incomplete absorbotion for oil based substances.

I've been looking further into this and apart from delt the next best place appears to be the Vastus lateralis (side of thigh), any one use this?

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Might give this a shot, or just run my real test subq and then delts for deca so will be a lower dose IM.
 
ChasetheCase said:
@doc was looking to do VG this morning and chickened out, I realised how veiney it is, I couldn't really seem to either find the right place or thought I had found it and then realised it had quite a few vessels.

I've read into using glutes (dorsogluteal) and it's not generally a recommended site for IM, especially self IM, this was due to the risk of hitting the sciatic nerve and it has poor or even incomplete absorbotion for oil based substances.

I've been looking further into this and apart from delt the next best place appears to be the Vastus lateralis (side of thigh), any one use this?

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Might give this a shot, or just run my real test subq and then delts for deca so will be a lower dose IM.
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I don’t understand or agree with your internet information. Upper outer glutes are almost always used for oil injections. Quads are harder to find a sweet spot and many people get PIP & bruises. Hospitals, clinics & athletes only use other sites after too many big needles cause tenderness & scar tissue in glutes ( often takes years). Shoulder is also easy for smaller IM injections. Both have plenty of safe meat around recommended sites. Sciatic nerve is closer to sacrum - look up anatomy charts and medical injections for those spots. It’s best not to inject until you have some basic knowledge- get someone to help you with the first one.
 
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I don’t understand or agree with your internet information. Upper outer glutes are almost always used for oil injections. Quads are harder to find a sweet spot and many people get PIP & bruises. Hospitals, clinics & athletes only use other sites after too many big needles cause tenderness & scar tissue in glutes ( often takes years). Shoulder is also easy for smaller IM injections. Both have plenty of safe meat around recommended sites. Sciatic nerve is closer to sacrum - look up anatomy charts and medical injections for those spots. It’s best not to inject until you have some basic knowledge- get someone to help you with the first one.
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ChasetheCase said:
This is what I had first read, then found loads more government and health care sites saying the same thing.

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I’ve read it from local hospital last year 🏥.
I tried it and wouldn’t do hip or quad unless absolutely last resort. I subsequently asked other Dr’s , nurses & endocrinologist’s who still don’t ever use hip 🤷🏻‍♂️ They have same opinion as me and don’t understand this official looking brochure.
The small volumes you use should be fine in shoulder or glute which both have a little room for error and have been successfully used for last 100+ years
 
doc said:
I’ve read it from local hospital last year 🏥.
I tried it and wouldn’t do hip or quad unless absolutely last resort. I subsequently asked other Dr’s , nurses & endocrinologist’s who still don’t ever use hip 🤷🏻‍♂️ They have same opinion as me and don’t understand this official looking brochure.
The small volumes you use should be fine in shoulder or glute which both have a little room for error and have been successfully used for last 100+ years
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I do agree with you, I had a chat with my GP about this subject and he says exactly the same thing.
 
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I spoke to my auntie last night whos a consultant nurse in the NHS, well was she retired last year. She told me that they can inject where they like, but the DG has not been a 'preferred' injection site for over ten years. She just said that there are safer places to inject with lower risk and higher absorbtion, so why use it. I didn't tell her it's because I'm running out of injecting sites as I'm not on my Dr prescribed levels haha.

I tried to look for official NHS procedures couldn't find much, but found this one which mentioned research back to 2008 on it not being recommended.


The likely incredible small risk of permanent damage from hitting your nerve is enough to make me not want to do it.

Just found this study from NZ on sciatic nerve injury from IM, 17 injuries out of 1500 patients. 1 in 88.
 
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