First cycle help

[LRG]

Hey guys, I’m a 20 year old male, 75kg body weight. I’m about to hop on trt that I’ll be sourcing from gear maniac after finding out my testosterone is very low. I’m planning on starting at 125 mg and working my way up to about 250 mg or until I feel better. This is a pretty standard TRT dose.

Do you think I should run HCG or enclomiphene alongside this to avoid infertility and testicular atrophy? A reliable source suggested alternating between HCG and enclomiphene monthly, but I haven't seen this recommended elsewhere. Is this sufficient or even necessary?

I’m also worried about E2-related side effects and am considering between a regular AI and Masteron. I know Masteron has AI properties, and due to my relatively low dose, I assume I wouldn’t need anything too strong. Would it be smart to go the more anabolic route and have Masteron on hand, or should I stick with a regular AI since it’s more mainstream?

That’s all my questions for today. Cheers in advance for the help.

 

[BigAPE]

Hey bro, starting at 125mg and moving up to 250mg I think is a good plan. The crown jewels unfortunately will shrink regardless so HCG can help mitigate this.. I’d go with 250 IU twice a week. I know that it’s worked well a lot of other guys.

You're on a low dose of Test so I wouldn't worry too much about E2 sides, you can use Masteron. Like you said it does have some AI properties and should help. Just start with that and monitor your levels. If you still get high estrogen symptoms, add a low dose AI like Arimidex. Keep it simple.

So to sum it up, run your TRT with HCG at 250 IU twice a week, and keep Arimidex ready to manage your estrogen. Masteron will also give you some extra gains.

 

[LRG]

Hey bro, starting at 125mg and moving up to 250mg I think is a good plan. The crown jewels unfortunately will shrink regardless so HCG can help mitigate this.. I’d go with 250 IU twice a week. I know that it’s worked well a lot of other guys.

You're on a low dose of Test so I wouldn't worry too much about E2 sides, you can use Masteron. Like you said it does have some AI properties and should help. Just start with that and monitor your levels. If you still get high estrogen symptoms, add a low dose AI like Arimidex. Keep it simple.

So to sum it up, run your TRT with HCG at 250 IU twice a week, and keep Arimidex ready to manage your estrogen. Masteron will also give you some extra gains.

Thanks man, helps getting a second opinion to confirm on on the right path.
You mentioned the boys shrinking anyway.
I’m hoping to still have children one day, is this off the table as soon as I hop on, should I look into freezing some for later use?
Was actually hoping to retain some level of fertility and some size in the long term.
I was thinking 500iu of hcg twice a week year round….
My other option was less hcg maybe 500iu weekly but add 12.5mg enclomaphine?
Keen to hear your thoughts.

 

[musclemaniac]

HCG can help you with preventing shrinkage and can also support with fertility. Running 250 IU twice a week is a good approach and will keep your boys in check. Masteron can help with E2 sides, but if you're keeping your Test dose low, you might not need a heavy AI. Start with just Test and Masteron, and keep an Arimidex on hand if needed. Some guys do fine without HCG, but if fertility and keeping the boys plump is a concern, it’s worth adding.

 

[musclemaniac]

Thanks man, helps getting a second opinion to confirm on on the right path.
You mentioned the boys shrinking anyway.
I’m hoping to still have children one day, is this off the table as soon as I hop on, should I look into freezing some for later use?
Was actually hoping to retain some level of fertility and some size in the long term.
I was thinking 500iu of hcg twice a week year round….
My other option was less hcg maybe 500iu weekly but add 12.5mg enclomaphine?
Keen to hear your thoughts.

Sorry for jumping in here...

If having kids is a priority, then yeah, freezing some sperm before starting TRT is a smart move just to be safe.

Starting with 250IU twice a week is often enough for a lot of guys. It's a more conservative approach and can help minimise any sides. If you're not seeing the results you want with 250IU, you can always bump it up to 500IU twice a week. Keep in minmd that more isn't always better. Sometimes higher doses can lead to increased estrogen or other sides. I'd recommend starting low and adjusting based on how you feel and what your bloodwork says. It's all about finding that sweet spot for your body.

Adding the 12.5mg of enclomiphene to your stack is beneficial imo for maintaining natural hormone production and fertility, its a well-rounded approach. Hope this helps.

 

[BigAPE]

Thanks man, helps getting a second opinion to confirm on on the right path.
You mentioned the boys shrinking anyway.
I’m hoping to still have children one day, is this off the table as soon as I hop on, should I look into freezing some for later use?
Was actually hoping to retain some level of fertility and some size in the long term.
I was thinking 500iu of hcg twice a week year round….
My other option was less hcg maybe 500iu weekly but add 12.5mg enclomaphine?
Keen to hear your thoughts.

All of the above brother